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    Re: PIEDMONT NW ITALY: THE LOST TOWN OF RAMA , THE PHAETHON LEGACY

    Messaggio Da Asti Ovest il Dom Giu 07, 2015 6:11 pm

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    The location of industries in western Italy implemented at the beginning of 1900, was a calculated system to facilitate profits and immigrations for hide a huge suppression plan toward a population that was bothering someone.
    The plans of Pike and Mazzini suggest several hypotheses on what is now our present and future (http://www.threeworldwars.com/albert-pike.htm).

    Many famous industries brands and commercial activities fall out under the worst pressure of State and banks power. In north western Italy the fall out began officially in early eighties (but in realty at the end of sixties) and now is the total desert of jobs. Meantime in the north eastern Italy (early eighties) the local false growth began just in the same times of western fall and now, they count the closure of their jobs and the illusion of the false welfare at the rythm of 3-7 suicide a day.
    Like a clockwork, the chinese buy for a bit and cash money ours brands, activities and buildings for own business.
    Is this our salvation?
    No.
    Their jobs are only for chinese. Why the our State facilitates their take over? This is well explained by Ben Fulford and Jay Parker: a old fraud of nine centuries ago by the ancestors of Rockefellers. Silver in change of gold, a thing similar of the bank derivates and now the mondial community must pay for them. This seems very bizarre, but makes everything in a credible way.

    Often, I think about Adriano Olivetti and his town Ivrea.
    He was a genius over the mass. His work metods, his firm with great windows in front the mountain, Ivrea the town in human size with Olivetti mayor, virtual father and close to needs of his workers and builder of the first big computer that had to be competitor of Honeywell and G.E., the builder of that valley called later "the Italian silicon valley".
    A little paradise destroyed by politic and syndacate greedy of power under the US's power command.
    In this website the records and memories by the former workers of Olivetti:  http://www.olivettiani.org/
    Ivrea was founded by Salassi and the Roman empire called this town Eporedia.

    Same paradigm of Olivetti, but more little, was the Leumann enterprise and his worker village in Swiss style bordering with Turin-Rivoli. The firm does not more exist from decades but yet exist the rebuilt village for turists.
    Celebration in US (Orlando-FL) is a modern copy of these paradigms.

    Now the real Piedmont natives are rare like Panda and out of the principal towns (the results of the politics of unique son typical of industrial society and the fruits of immigration). The natives now are located in country villages like in a reservation, the same of american natives in their reserves. The youth have lost our identy in a slow process of italianisation and only the old emigrants around the world have conserved language and traditions expecially in Argentina.
    In order of the true, we must say also that exist a strange paradox that put in evidence cases of immigrants grew in the core of Piedmonteses who carry on our traditions better than us.

    It's my opinion thats only few natives in Susa valley have interest to preserve our identity (these are above the Saint Michael ley line and is not a case ...).
    Others are in the eastern Alps valleys of Piedmont and in Monferrato (the L syncronic isle). Turin have lost totally his identy: many Turinese natives like are emigrate in countryside far Turin because the criminality and the convivence with allochtonous and silly allogeneic renegade turineses is insostenible.
    My grandparents did the same in 1922 for the arrogance of fascism and its silly hierarchs. They left their commercial activity in the full center of Turin for living in Monferrato like farmers.
    The  north western Italy great towns are ruled by the worst politics that enlists fake natives, the worst natives brainwashed, strangers immigrants.
    All togheter are the best instruments in the hands of the worst lobbies and evil forces.

    Wastages, political frauds, red light cams and speed check fraud, unjust and absurd disproportionate taxes, the most worst public and private service, election frauds, and so on.
    This is Italy under another fraud command called UE and its regime.

    Thats is the real fact in the our towns: greedy foreigners and blind and stupid renegades Piedmonteses servants of power that guide the community.
    Who leads the worst lobbies? We know them, but their goal is alredy accomplished.
    Then the gooders and compassion are the weapons tips of the enemy.
    The Church is another power apart and in accord to subdue the people. Twenty centuries of a cloak absolute power.
    Why? Simple, the absolute power in Italy is in the hands of the Italian southern politics servant of dark forces from the end of WWII.




    Real pictures of elders in north western Italy (for others pics type on google pics: povertà in Italia).

    I have read and translate privatly (very probably the only one in Italy) the R.M.Sky stories and over the half of the story of his graduate thesys (the rest is vanishing of his site before that i had terminated), a great story about his contrast with the prof. Vrang and his assistants Lisa and David, a tremendous paradigm of logic and cleverness, an amazing stuff.
    R.M.S. fourty years ago had unveiled that Sitchin and then Biglino and many others told us in their conferences and books.
    R.M.S. had theorized precisely in T.p. 2  what would happen today.
    Others are in same path, but i think - is my personal opinion - that his stories are forward everybody.
    For example, Mauro Biglino claims in his books and conference that the people of Yhwh burned animal flesh with fat. This was for Heloim like a drugs, a feromone.
    An ESA physical explains to Biglino that odor is the same inside pressurised suit: a chemical reaction between sweat and pressurized oxygen.
    Now, the astronaut S. Cristoforetti claim the same things: the things in space stink of burning and stale.
    The Elohim were spacial beings.

    The Cristoforetti's claim about the space odor:

    http://maurobiglino.it/2015/02/samantha-cristoforetti-e-bruciato-e-stantio-lodore-dello-spazio/



    Now like usually says my mentor R.M. Sky "I suggest you ...", I suggest you to explore the sky over the commercial activities of barbeque like those in my zone. These are commercial activities that offer flesh, barbeque tools and place to consume local natural products.
    This is a great "fiesta" for kids and parents like a "pow wow" but without dance, dancers and fry bread.
    If this fiestas are near synchronic - ley - lines expecially like the ours Saint Michael line, the L island, Musinè and in front of Rocciamelone mount, take a look at sunrise for a strange phenomenas.
    Sometimes happened ...

    For Biglino and many researchers and ufologists, is common opinion who these ETs are among with us yet.
    It is true for me also, just not only look at the ground.

    In Italy many studies about the ancient e recent history unveiled many deformations on official history.
    A group of scholars and writers (Giorgio Vitali, Gian Paolo Pucciarelli and various youtube guests) nicknamed "Accademia della Libertà" on web reveal facts and stories that compare itself with official history about zionist's Italian slavery and his italian servants accomplices.
    Notes: the Hebrews are Hebrews and zionists are zionists.


    The recent book of Gioele Magaldi, freemason Grand Master founder of Grande Oriente Democratico - G.O.D. -, a order born from a scission of Grande Oriente d'Italia - G.O.I. - unveiled the facts, members and the worst about the supranational lodges that lead the world.
    This book goes alongside the books of Leo Zagami "Confessions of a Illuminated" that explain the historical background of Freemasons, Jesuits and Vatican.
    This book cooming soon in english thus the world may knowing a big part of true.

    In other word, now with the web that meets the persons and colture around world, is possible rebuild or theorize new frontiers of the true inside the official history.

    Mauro Biglino, Gioele Magaldi, Paolo Barnard, Giulietto Chiesa and many others less famous, are the last hope for wake up Italy but is hard fight the lords of the lobbies if the people is not informed and are slave of mass media and their brainwashed.
    I suggest to the lectors to translate in english the new youtube conferences of Mauro Biglino and also the 2015 conference of Corrado Malanga (expecially EVIDEON files) about coscience and photons.
    And more, the experiments of Calogero Grifasi on youtube about the regressive hypnosis.

    The first Mauro Biglino book in english


       read his first book in english



    Then also read the five levels of learning by Wes Penre free downloaded on his site (widget on my forum portal). Penre has great stuff and is a strong private scholar.

    This is a British Patè video about the southern Italy invasion in Turin of the early '70.
    The invasion begun after the II WW that continues today. Take a look to the people's faces: no one is piedmontese.




    Now we have lost identity, language and "solis et sanguinis".
    We were the tech lab of Italy, a locomotive, the legacy of Taurini and Salassi, of Rama: nothing is more the same.
    We can thank the multinational corporations, the FIAT and his history (read about it on Fondazione Cipriani web site), the Church, but this an another story.
    And is another story the true story about the take over of Bossi's Northern League on Roberto Gremmo's "Piemont" movement. A perfect plan of secret societies and secret services for destroy our identity and the real potential rebellion against the cabalist system (listen Franco Levi's speach on Radio Radicale archive about the Northern league and his take over on Gremmo's movement - http://www.radioradicale.it/scheda/39626/39662-assemblea-dellassociazione-iniziativa-radicale listen from time bar 54min).

    I have learned much from mr. Robert Morning Sky and now, I know much more about the linguistic roots.
    Calabria is the region with much more people in Piedmont.
    For me is not a case.
    On R.M. Sky path and his teachings I have much learned.
    I have translate Calabria in Cal-abria. Cal is also "Kal" and "abria" in english is similar to the word "Ebrew".
    Kal is the word that in Ebrew is "voice" or "vessel" thus ... kal-ebrew - Cal-abria - vassel of ebrew or voice of Ebrew -.
    Curious? Bizarre? Silly? I don't know.

    This a thought, a windmill in my mind that suggesting me a lot of things.

    In the tradition of Piedmont natives language there are two typical expressions: teron (pronucied teh-roon) reportedly to the Italian southern people, and a blasphemy against the Bible God: "dio faus" or its abbreviation "dio fa" (god false, pronuncied dee-hoo fah-hus and in abreviation - for masked the blasfemy - dee-hoo fah).
    For the first, is a Italian common opinion that derives because the southern people are uncouth peasants that able only digging large clods.
    False for me.
    Teron is Terone (http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terone), an ancient  sicilian tyrant.
    It is known that southern Italians are more aggressives of the northern Italian: mafia, camorra and andrangheta, are activities  born in southern Italy. The Soprano's TV serials is a good paradigm.
    Terone was a precursor of this concept and our ancestors remembered him.
    Second point: the blasphemy.
    For centuries the roman Church claimed Yhvh the father of Jesus.
    False, Yhvh is not the father of Jesus the Christ.
    Infact, in 2002 the Church changing his opinion (dogma), no God in Bible but Lord.
    Would be more correct say Overlords of war and evil.Our Piedmontese elders knowed the truth about it but the youngers no.
    Now Mauro Biglino explain us all the truth about Bible and its Gods and demons.

    Why destroy our heritage, our identity, our culture, our welfare, our work along the centuries, our ley lines (the Saint Michael line) and our thoughts?
    Is Turin (or Milan and any point of western Italy) a Kalergi goal pattern for the globalist evil?
    If the globalism and its worst servants destroy the human job, his sweat, his heritage and legacy, his works, is the "great" NWO plan?
    Or is the NWO's slavery plan?
    No one left to tell about it: facts are facts.

    The last but not least story.
    Germany is the strong tech power in UE. Turin was a master point in automotive and his supply.
    In a Turin area (Nichelino) the automotive supplies was very strong in early past.
    Now is fall because Fiat as gone away from turin and the german automotive is very interested in our know own.
    Mercedes and Volkswagen get their automotive products from our industries.
    For Germany this is quality, professionality and experience low cost because our industries are in strong crisis and constrict to work low cost.
    The Germans glad, pull the rope to level of chinese cost, thinking to realize their goals.
    But our workers of an automotive thermoplastic enterprise, tired of their tyranny, say them a strong "no!".
    The Germans released a new better contract to this enterprise.
    Turin and Germany, a old story from the time of Messersmith planes in Pininfarina factory at WWII era.

    Who bothers Piedmont? Who wants destroy it?

    I'd suggest some stuff about Simon Parkes to connect with other stuff about Giulietto Chiesa, Leo Zagami, Ben Fulford, James Casbolt, Wes Penre and many others.
    This stuff rides the real, the bizarre and all between all.

    Is a war of worst ancient archons and some men are their servants?
    May be ... is real and very bizarre ...
    Or not ...?


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    PETROGLYPHS, ARCHONS AND PIEDMONT FALL

    Messaggio Da Asti Ovest il Dom Giu 07, 2015 6:08 pm

    In february 18th 2015 Robert Morning Sky wrote on his website portal:


    18 FEBRUARY - DENIAL DANGER
     
    THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO, A PRIMITIVE WARLORD LEARNED OF A GROUP OF SHAMANESS WOMEN WHO HAD EXTRAORDINARY SUPERNATURAL POWERS. TO HIS DISMAY, HE LEARNED THEIR SOURCE OF POWER WAS THE ‘FEMININE DIVINE’, THE GREAT MOTHER GODDESS. OBSESSED WITH THE SEXUAL ORGANS OF WOMEN, THE WARLORD BELIEVED THE POWER OF ALL WOMEN, INCLUDING THE GODDESS, HAD TO COME FROM THEIR PRIVATE PARTS.
    TO ACQUIRE POWER FROM THE ‘FEMININE DIVINE’, THE WARLORD FABRICATED HIS OWN PROTO-RELIGION, ONE IN WHICH HE COULD JOIN WITH AND CONQUER THE GREAT GODDESS, THUS BECOMING THE ULTIMATE GOD HIMSELF.
    TO PREVENT ANYONE LEARNING HE SOUGHT POWER FROM THE GODDESS, HE CLOAKED THE GODDESS IN THE ROBES OF HIS MALE-GOD CREATION.
    FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, HUMANKIND HAS LIVED IN THE SHADOW OF A FABRICATED MALE-GOD RELIGION THAT WAS BASED ON THE RITUALS AND SYMBOLS OF A PRIMITIVE WARLORD OBSESSED WITH SEX. TO THIS DAY, THE VALUE OF WOMEN IS BASED ON THEIR SEXUALITY.
    I AM HONORED TO LEARN FROM AND SHARE WHAT I HAVE TERMED THE ‘LOST HISTORY OF WOMANKIND’.
    THANK YOU TO THE SEMSIYE ELDERS...
    THANK YOU TO THE ‘WOMEN OF FIRE’...
    THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO ARE CLOSEST TO ME AND WHO HAVE MADE IT POSSIBLE TO OFFER THE FOLLOWING...
    THE EVIDENCE WILL SPEAK FOR ITSELF...
     
    ROBERT MORNING SKY
    It's absolutly true and I do not forget the goddes Minerva alias Athena the loved patron of western Europe and also the story told in the previous posts about "La Bela Rosin" about her friendship with the Catars, Druids and the worst freemason infiltrations  like Cavour and Costantino Nigra.
    Cavour and Nigra like parasites sucking the ancient knowledge of wiccas for theirs interests.
    Later Cavour dies one month after his signature on Italy kingdom for a suspect heart attack.
    Probably was not a case, there are many theories and suspects that flying around this strange death. Sombody told about a poison for punishing him probably repented after his signature on Italy kingdom.
    Piedmont is a magic gate, a very important ley lines crossing, a land of many meeting about ancient race and archons: viewers who watched knows.
    Is a laboratory of thoughts, arts, culture and tecnologies.
    Is not a case.
    And is not a case the welfare grown in its lands, the Rama history and part of ours egiptian heritage.
    Mauro Biglino, turinese former Bible translator for the Vatican scholars and "sleeper" freemason, now (after many others before him) unveils the manipolation of the official history.
    The Bible is a war book, a story of ancient archons and many parts of this book are taken from Sumerian tablets and cylinders.
    For theologists the sumerian history is a legend, but the Bible born many centuries late with many manipulation and an creatives translation it as a God book for them.
    Thats what's claims Biglino and mostly in accord with many rabbis, scientists, scholars, Sitchin theories and others. 
    His path is in accord with many points of the famous R. Morning Sky's Terra papers written over fourty years ago for his graduate thesis.
    Also this, is not a case.
    Turin was born seven centuries before Rome from ancient people named Taurini and Salassi appears from nothing by Alps and pre-Alps.
    Do not seems the same the same pattern of Sumerians?
    Is this a case?
    Maybe ...
    But I have any hypotesis that crossing Atlantis, Pangea, Elohim or Anunnaki and Akhenaton. I think that Piedmont was a type of ancient experiment.
    Why Catars, Druids, Celtics meets in Piedmont?
    Why the real natives of Turin in the beginning of XX century practiced yet egipts rituals and the church banned these later?
    Why just in Turin the most famous Egypt museum after the Cairo?
    The history told about an Egyptian transumance across Mar Nostrum in Liguria.
    Lyra and Cygnus petroglyphs on Musinè are a gift to the myths of feline races our guardians and first creator (remember the stories about it)? Then dolphins and whales both the memory "hard disk" of our galaxy history (remember the bizarre Alex Collier story and his reference to Star Trek about the source of their stuff?).
    Coincidences?
    Coincidences that our past money was called Lira?
    Very strange stuff ...

    http://menhir-ticino.webs.com/costellazioniecoppelle.htm
    Lyra on Musinè

    Cygnus on Musinè

    And Pleyades in Aosta valley?



    The Musinè mount (means little donkey in piedmontese):



    On Musinè:



    This petroglyph does not more exist, was stolen about 1978 and somebody put this plate:



    The plate quotes ha scritto:Here is a satellite of the 7 electrodynamic points that from its living glowing core throughout the earth breathes emit life. Here operate astral entities were: Atsheptut, Echnaton, Jesus Christ, Mohammed, Confucius, Abraham, Buddha, Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Francis of Assisi, and you if you want also to build brotherhood among all people thinks intensely 3 minutes.
    Thought is built.



    What about the petroglyphs below the hat?
    Plasma.
    Take a look from 20 minutes of bartime:



    M. Biglino suggest about Kavod - "the glory of God" - was a Yhvh's starship with a plasma engine and four cherubins (monoplace aircraft below the Kavod keel) and a physical scientist confirmed to Biglino that the Moses facial burns were probably the typical plasma exposures (the web is full of Biglino's conferences with his precise biblical references).
    The Cherubin:




    The science suggest a possible truth about myths.
    Only coincidences?
    What suggest the Orion warrior that shoot his arrow against Aldebaran (Torus - Augusta Taurinorum ... Turin ... Torino)?
    What may suggest the figures of elders about the constellations?
    Ancient myths and battles?
    Is it only a case on our montains?
    Taurini and Salassi appears from nothing on our Alps like the Sumerians. The legend about Phaeton/Eridani, the river Po, the hybrid Akhenaton and his transumance, the Rama megaliths in Susa valley (Ocelum), Turin born seven centuries before Rome, the synchronics lines, etc. .
    Are only fantasies and coincidences?

    Why in the last two centuries and much more in recent times the Piedmont and his real natives and traditions has been annihilated from the southern and eastern people invasion (the story of 1922 Kalergi's plan)?
    Same thing in neighboring Lombardy.
    Seems the same paradigm of the american natives.
    I've a big bizarre suspect about it: ours archons hybridations and their own ancient conflicts.

    Report from http://golden-dawn-international-newsroom.blogspot.it/2013/01/the-coudenhove-kalergi-plan-genocide-of.html :

    The Coudenhove-Kalergi plan - The genocide of the Peoples of Europe








    This article is a translation of an Italian article, originally posted on Identità.

    Mass immigration is a phenomenon, the causes of which are still cleverly concealed by the system, and the multicultural propaganda is trying to falsely portray it as inevitable. With this article we intend to prove once and for all, that this is not a spontaneous phenomenon. What they want to present as an inevitable outcome of modern life, is actually a plan conceived around a table and prepared for decades, to completely destroy the face of the continent.


    The Pan-Europe





    Few people know that one of the main initiators of the process of European
    integration, was also the man who designed the genocide plan of the Peoples of Europe. It is a dark person, whose existence is unknown to the masses, but the elite considers him as the founder of the European Union. His name is Richard Coudenhove Kalergi. His father was an Austrian diplomat named Heinrich von Coudenhove-Kalergi (with connections to the Byzantine family of the Kallergis) and his mother the Japanese Mitsu Aoyama. Kalergi, thanks to his close contacts with all European aristocrats and politicians, due to the relationships of his nobleman-diplomat father, and by moving behind the scenes, away from the glare of publicity, he managed to attract the most important heads of state to his plan , making them supporters and collaborators for the "project of European integration".

    In 1922 he founded the "Pan-European" movement in Vienna, which aimed to create a New World Order, based on a federation of nations led by the United States. European integration would be the first step in creating a world government. Among the first supporters, including Czech politicians Tomáš Masaryk and Edvard Beneš and the banker Max Warburg, who invested the first 60,000 marks. The Austrian Chancellor Ignaz Seipel and the next president of Austria, Karl Renner, took the responsibility for leading the "Pan-European" movement. Later, French politicians, such as Léon Bloum, Aristide Briand,  Alcide De Gasperi, etc will offer their help.

     With the rise of Fascism in Europe, the project was abandoned and the "Pan-European" movement was forced to dissolve, but after the Second World War, Kalergi, thanks to frantic and tireless activity and the support of Winston Churchill, the Jewish Masonic Lodge B'nai B'rith and major newspapers like the New York Times, the plan manages to be accepted by the United States Government. The CIA later undertakes the completion of the project.

    The essence of the Kalergi plan





    In his book «Praktischer Idealismus», Kalergi indicates that the residents of the future "United States of Europe" will not be the People of the Old Continent, but a kind of sub-humans, products of miscegenation. He clearly states that the peoples of Europe should interbreed with Asians and colored races, thus creating a multinational flock with no quality and easily controlled by the ruling elite.

     Kalergi proclaims the abolition of the right of self-determination and then the elimination of nations with the use of ethnic separatist movements and mass migration. In order for Europe to be controlled by an elite, he wants to turn people into one homogeneous mixed breed of Blacks, Whites and Asians. Who is is this elite however? Kalergi is particularly illuminating on this:  

    The man of the future will be of mixed race. The races and classes of today will gradually disappear due to the elimination of space, time, and prejudice. The Eurasian-negroid race of the future, similar in appearance to the Ancient Egyptians, will replace the diversity of peoples and the diversity of individuals. Instead of destroying European Judaism, Europe, against her will, refined and educated this people, driving them to their future status as a leading nation through this artificial evolutionary process. It's not surprising that the people that escaped from the Ghetto-Prison, became the spiritual nobility of Europe. Thus, the compassionate care given by Europe created a new breed of aristocrats. This happened when the European feudal aristocracy crashed because of the emancipation of the Jews [due to the actions taken by the French Revolution]
     
     Although no textbook mentions Kalergi, his ideas are the guiding principles of the European Union. The belief that the peoples of Europe should be mixed with Africans and Asians, to destroy our identity and create a single mestizo race, is the basis of all community policies that aim to protect minorities. Not for humanitarian reasons, but because of the directives issued by the ruthless Regime that machinates the greatest genocide in history. The Coudenhove-Kalergi European Prize is awarded every two years to Europeans who have excelled in promoting this criminal plan. Among those awarded with such a prize are Angela Merkel and Herman Van Rompuy.
     
     The incitement to genocide, is also the basis of the constant appeals of the United Nations, that demands we accept millions of immigrants to help with the low birth rates of the EU. According to a report published on January 2000 in «Population division» Review of the United Nations in New York, under the title "Immigration replacement: A solution to declining and aging population," Europe will need by 2025 159,000,000 migrants.

     One could wonder how there can be such accuracy on the estimates of immigration, although it was not a premeditated plan. It is certain that the low birth rate could easily be reversed with appropriate measures to support families. It is just as clear that it is the contribution of foreign genes do not protect our genetic heritage, but that it enables their disappearance. The sole purpose of these measures is to completely distort our people, to turn them into a group of people without national, historical and cultural cohesion. In short, the policies of the Kalergi plan was and still is, the basis of official government policies aimed at genocide of the Peoples of Europe, through mass immigration. G. Brock Chisholm, former director of the World Health Organization (OMS), proves that he has learned the lesson of Kalergi well when he says: "What people in all places have to do is to limit of birthrates and promote mixed marriages (between different races), this aims to create a single race in a world which will be directed by a central authority. "

    Conclusions



    If we look around us, the Kalergi plan seems to be fully realized. We face Europe's fusion with the Third World. The plague of interracial marriage produces each year thousands of young people of mixed race: "The children of Kalergi». Under the dual pressures of misinformation and humanitarian stupefaction, promoted by the MSM, the Europeans are being taught to renounce their origin, to renounce their national identity.

     The servants of globalization are trying to convince us that to deny our identity, is a progressive and humanitarian act, that "racism" is wrong, because they want us all to be blind  consumers. It is necessary, now more than ever, to counter the lies of the System, to awaken the revolutionary spirit of the Europeans. Every one must see this truth, that European Integration amounts to genocide. We have no other option, the alternative is national suicide.

     Translator's note: Although the reasons due to which Kalergi made the choices he made are of no particular interest to us, we will try to answer a question that will surely our readers have already asked: Why a European aristocrat with Flemish, Polish, Greek-Byzantine roots and even with some samurai blood in his veins (from his mother) was such body plans and organ in the hands of dark forces? The reasons, in our opinion, are multiple, idiosyncratic, psychological and ... women.

     We therefore observe a personality with strong snobbish attitudes, arrogance, and, allow me the term, "degenerate elitism." Also, the fact that his mother was Asian, perhaps created internal conflicts and frustrations, something that can happen to people with such temperament. But the most decisive factor must have been the "proper teenager", which incidentally of course, was beside him, and became his first woman (at age 13): The Jewess Ida Roland, who would later become a famous actress.

    EUROPEAN COUNCIL





    The Coudenhove-Kalergi Prize goes to President Van Rompuy

     

    On November 16th 2012, the President of the European Council, Herman Van Rompuy, was awarded the Coudenhove-Kalergi Prize, during a special conference in Vienna, to celebrate the 90 years of the pan-European movement. The prize is awarded every two years to leading personalities for their outstanding contribution to the process of European integration.

     A  decisive factor that helped him win the prize was the balanced way in which President Van Rompuy executed his duties in the new position of President of the European Council, which was established by the Treaty of Lisbon. He handled this particularly sensitive leading and coordinating role with a spirit of determination and reconciliation, while emphasis was also given to his skilful arbitration on European affairs and unfailing commitment to European moral values.

    During his speech, Mr Van Rompuy described the unification of Europe as a peace project. This idea, which was also the objective of the work of Coudenhove-Kalergi, after 90 years is still important. The award bears the name of Count Richard Nicolaus von Coudenhove-Kalergi (1894-1972), philosopher, diplomat, publisher and founder of the Pan-European Movement (1923). Coudenhove-Kalergi was the pioneer of European integration and popularized the idea of ​​a federal Europe with his work.

    Among the winners of the award, the Federal Chancellor of Germany Angela Merkel (2010) and the President of Latvia Vaira Vike-Freiberga (2006), are included.

    I suggest this book by Gioele Magaldi Grand Master of Grande Oriente Democratico :

    Massoni
    The discover of UR-Lodges


    Inside the cover:


    Robert Morning Sky told about archons that had used us for the their battles.
    Very probably he is right and the cupidity of secret societies, the confusion coupled with human stupidity, is the fire of evil.
    "Ordo ab chao" the motto and "problem-reaction-solution" (Hegel thought), is the method of evil forces.
    Madame Blavatsky, Cayce, Urantia, Bible, Vega, the freemason books, and many others, probably have suggest us a part of the true.

    I think that my Piedmont is the rest of an ancient human seed with old stories of hybridations. We are a race with a common linguage but with differences among village or town in only 10 km of distance. This is a sign, this explains because the external conquest from Italian eastern and southern people was easy after their invasion.
    For many reasons the Piedmont is a big annoyance for some archons and their armed wing Masonic.





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    THE MUSINE' AND OTHER MYSTERIES AROUND TURIN

    Messaggio Da Asti Ovest il Ven Feb 20, 2015 9:24 pm

    Musinè is the magic little montain close Turin.
    Is not only the termic pump for the gliders of the nearest Aero Club, but is real magic mountain of Hatshepsut, Akhenaton, Ermes Trismegist.
    Take a look the monolite at the end of video, at the bottom of plate is wrote:

    To the brotherhood among the people.
    Think intensely about for three minutes.
    Thought is building.



    Susa valley: the rest of the three ages of Rama town.




    Rama is live: the our ancient heritage.



    Lanzo's valleys




    Our celtics and druids heart with various dances, the bear dance, the "candelora" (candel feast), the Phaeton myth, the cromlech of dreamland:




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    Lyonesse, the Saint Michael line and the Lanzo Celtic sacred triangle

    Messaggio Da Asti Ovest il Gio Dic 25, 2014 7:38 pm

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    23 December, 2014 - 12:14 mrreese
    The Lost Land of Lyonesse – Legendary City on the Bottom of the Sea
    In Arthurian legend, Lyonesse is the home country of Tristan, from the legendary story of Tristan and Iseult.  The mythical land of Lyonesse is now referred to as the “Lost Land of Lyonesse,” as it is ultimately said to have sunk into the sea. However, the legendary tale of Tristan and Iseult shows that Lyonesse is known for more than sinking into the ocean, and that it had a legendary presence while it remained above ground. While Lyonesse is mostly referred to in stories of legend and myth, there is some belief that it represents a very real city that sunk into the sea many years ago. With such a legendary location, it can be difficult to ascertain where the legend ends and reality begins.
    The story of Lyonesse most logically begins with Tristan and Iseult. The story of Tristan and Iseult is a tragic story of love and loss. It is an Arthurian tale, inspired by Celtic legend. It is said that the story was possibly the inspiration for the romance of Lancelot and Guinevere, as both stories push the boundaries of love, family, loyalty, adultery, and betrayal. While the story of Tristan and Iseult can vary based upon who is telling it, the plot follows a common theme. Tristan, a young boy from Lyonesse who has been orphaned, it taken in by his uncle, King Mark of Cornwall, which borders Lyonesse.
    Tristan and Iseult. ‘The End of the Song’ by Edmund Leighton, 1902 (Wikimedia Commons)
    As the years pass by, Tristan is very loyal to his uncle, as he raised him as his own son. When Tristan is grown, Mark sends him to Ireland to retrieve the fair maiden Iseult and bring her to Cornwall, as she and King Mark are set to marry. Tristan loyally follows his uncle’s orders, and journeys to Ireland.  On the return trip from Ireland, however, the pair are exposed to a love potion and fall madly in love with one another. Iseult eventually arrives in Cornwall and marries King Mark, but the love potion is very powerful, and Tristan and Iseult cannot deny their love for one another. Tristan and Iseult both love King Mark, but their love for one another is stronger. Eventually the pair is discovered and King Mark is devastated. While Tristan should be sent immediately to the gallows for adultery, King Mark harbors an affection for him, as his nephew. King Mark agrees to forgive Tristan, on the condition that Tristan return Iseult to him. Tristan does so, and he and King Mark make amends.

    In most variations, the sinking of Lyonesse occurs well after the stories of Tristan, Iseult, and King Mark take place. The sinking itself is not mentioned in Arthurian legend, although some say that Lyonesse sunk when Tristan left for King Mark’s court.  In Lord Tennyson's epic Idylls of the King, Lyonesse is the location where Arthur and Mordred fought their final battle. One passage foreshadows Lyonesse’s sinking:
    Then rose the King and moved his host by night
    And ever pushed Sir Mordred, league by league,
    Back to the sunset bound of Lyonesse -
    A land of old upheaven from the abyss
    By fire, to sink into the abyss again;
    Where fragments of forgotten peoples dwelt,
    And the long mountains ended in a coast
    Of ever-shifting sand, and far away
    The phantom circle of a moaning sea.
    There are some variations in the legends that surround the sinking of the land. Prior to its sinking, Lyonesse would have been quite large, containing one hundred and forty villages and churches. Lyonesse is said to have disappeared on November 11, 1099 (although some tales use the year 1089, and some date back to the 6th century). Very suddenly the land was flooded by the sea. Entire village were swallowed, and the people and animals of the area drowned. Once it was covered in water, the land never reemerged. While the Arthurian tales are legendary, there is some belief that Lyonesse was once a very real place attached to the Scilly Isles in Cornwall, England. Evidence shows that sea levels were considerably lower in the past, so it is very possible that an area that once contained a human settlement above-ground is now beneath the sea level.
    Some believe that Lyonesse was a real place attached to the Scilly Isles (pictured). Source: BigStockPhoto
    It is said that all that remains of Lyonesse is today’s still-standing island of Scilly. Fisherman near the Scilly Isles tell tales of retrieving pieces of buildings and other structures from their fishing nets. These stories have never been substantiated, and are viewed by some as tall tales. They also say they can see remnants of a forest when the sea is at low tide. On a more ghostly and spiritual level, some claim to hear the church bells of Lyonesse ringing during stormy times. As the legends of Lyonesse continue in today’s story-telling, it also remains a part of modern English literature. In 1922, Walter de la Mare wrote:
    In sea-cold Lyonesse,
    When the Sabbath eve shafts down
    On the roofs, walls, belfries
    Of the foundered town,
    The Nereids pluck their lyres
    Where the green translucency beats,
    And with motionless eyes at gaze
    Make ministrely in the streets./
    And the ocean water stirs
    In salt-worn casement and porch
    Plies the blunt-nosed fish
    With fire in his skull for torch.
    And the ringing wires resound;
    And the unearthly lovely weep,
    In lament of the music they make
    In the sullen courts of sleep:
    Whose marble flowers bloom for aye:
    And - lapped by the moon-guiled tide
    Mock their carver with heart of stone,
    Caged in his stone-ribbed side.
    It is no surprise that the story of the sinking city of Lyonesse has come forth with many variations throughout the years. The image of a large, functioning city inhabited by thousands of people suddenly sinking into the sea, never to emerge again invokes an image that is both awesome and horrifying. From the legendary tales of Tristan and Iseult, to Arthur’s final battle with Mordred, to the stories of a city being swallowed by the sea, the tales of Lyonesse invoke a vast array of thoughts and emotions by those who wish to know more about this legendary city, and who like to believe that it’s legendary tales are founded upon a very real lost city.
    Featured image: Artist’s depiction of Lyonesse being swept away (AnnoyzView)
    Sources:
    The Legend of Lyonesse – Lyonesse Falmouth. Available from: http://www.lyonessefalmouth.co.uk/legends/legends.html
    Lyonesse – Wikipedia. Available from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyonesse
    The Land of Arthur: Lyonesse – King Arthur’s Knights. Available from: http://www.kingarthursknights.com/theland/lyonesse.asp
    Lyonesse – Princeton. Available from: https://www.princeton.edu/~achaney/tmve/wiki100k/docs/Lyonesse.html
    Lyonesse, the lost land off Cornwall – Legend of King Arthur. Available from: http://www.legendofkingarthur.co.uk/cornwall/lyonesse.htm
    Tristan and Iseult – Wikipedia. Available from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tristan_and_Iseult
    By M R Reese




    This is the Saint Michael line from Cornwall to Jordan and over:








    This is the celtic sacred triangle in NW Piedmont near Turin: Lanzo-Ramponio-Lissiga.

    http://www.duepassinelmistero.com/triangolosacro.htm








    Why the reference to Arcturia, Capella, Orion, Bellatrix, Aldebaran, Althair, Antares?
    The Piedmont elders knew our origins and hybridizations.


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    ANCIENT ROOTS OF WORLD LANGUAGE - ADDENDUM

    Messaggio Da Asti Ovest il Gio Ago 28, 2014 3:13 pm

    I dedicate this page to the one I consider my mentor, the man that has opened my mind and showed me the paths of research: Mr. Robert Morning Sky, a great American Native.




    https://archive.org/stream/originofancientn00dunlrich



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    REFERENCE ADDENDUM

    Messaggio Da Asti Ovest il Gio Ago 28, 2014 2:52 am

    In my amatorial private research I found some wires between what has explained by Mauro Biglino, the stories and research of col. Constantino Cattoi and the anthropologist Williamson, the power of the rocks, the synchronic lines and vortex, the exodus of Akenathon, the supposed astigians origins in the one of the ages of the Count of Saint Germain, the migration of some Cathars in Piedmont, Druids, the history of Toth and the boards of emeralds, the research and the stories of Robert Morning Sky, and much more connected with the myth of Atlantis and the legend of Phaethon.
    Five million years ago, the Piedmont was still under the sea and in the Alto Monferrato there are several shell fossils like this that I found in my garden.
    The true initiates of Freemasonry know that there are in Piedmont much stories related to arcane esoteric studies handed down by the Druids. The ambitious and intrigued Freemason count of Cavour knew something as well as his friend sen. Costantino Nigra, which is why they loved to attend the "bela Rosin" and her Druids friends .
    The stone sun disks found in Val Susa could be an indication of frequent contacts among Taurini and Salassians with those who have transplanted their lineage on our alpine mountains.
    Many secrets are still kept by the last heirs of those masters druids guardians of the Archons teachings.
    These heirs are the inhabitants of our mountains of Val Susa, those who shared the ancient alchemical secrets of the other brothers survived other disasters. Not only the EA teachers, EA-SU as he called them in his R. M. Sky Terra papers, but even more ancient masters.





    The five million year fossil found in my garden:









    Phaeton, Rama, solar disks.

    http://www.shan-newspaper.com/web/tradizioni-celtiche/649-il-mito-di-fetonte-e-la-citta-di-rama-1.html











    Col. Costantino Cattoi files:

    [url=http://tracce.orizzonteassoluto.com/ebook Martinelli-Zagni APU-AN IL SOLE ALATO RITORNA.pdf]http://tracce.orizzonteassoluto.com/ebook%20Martinelli-Zagni%20APU-AN%20IL%20SOLE%20ALATO%20RITORNA.pdf[/url]






    About the river Po:

    http://archive.org/stream/originofancientn00dunlrich/originofancientn00dunlrich_djvu.txt
     
    The old Italian sun-god Ap, Op (or Ab), is the bull Ap-is of the Egyptians, the steer Ah-udad (Adad, the sun) of the Persians, the Egyptian name of Amen-oph, or Amun-oph, the Arabian " Al-Auf," the god Auf, Ab-ed or Eb-ed of the Bible (Ebed-ezer), Evi, the name of a Hebrew, the cities Ava and Nin-eva (An-an-ias, H-an-ani, Onan), the name Eve of the Bible, Abi-ely Ab-d-ie\, Abi-ezer, Abi-dQ.u, Abi-jah, Abi-me-\ech, Abi-SithdiY (Adar, the sun), ^6-dera, a Thracian city, Ep-idauY-us, now called Pi-daur-ra {Jup-iter or Jop-adar (Ater, the sun), the Assyrian Adar-melech, the fire-god).
    It seems more reasonable to connect the name Jupiter with Op, the sun, the old Italian god (iuve = Jovi), with Jap-et and Jap-et-os, which Buttmann considers names of the Supreme Being, than to adopt the derivation from the Sanskrit Djaush, " Heaven," or Diu or Div, " to shine" (Divus), and Pitar, " father." Dius-piter and Dies-piter are less natural than Op, the sun. Our father,(iOp-piter), the name of the river Po, or P-ad-us (Ja-pet-us). Compare As-o/?-us, or As-opo, a river in Thes-saly, and Ap-us, a river in Illyricum. Ab, compounded with the sun-name Ad, forms Ab- ed-nego, Ob-ed-iah, Obed-Edom, and P-ed-ah-zur, Bible-names. Japet (or Jupit-er) is the Greek Puth-ios (the Pythian Apollo), Pytho, the sun-dragon, the Egyptian Phut or Phth-ah, the fire-god Ptah (compare the Titan Japet-os, and Jephth-ah, judge of Israel), Phut, the Hebrew patri-arch,* and Iphitus.f The " itfer " in the name of Jup-iter
    * Genesis x. t Odyss. xxi. 26. 




    About Torino (Turin):
    http://torinoarte.com/storia/stori2.htm


    The Count Tesauro in his "Historia di Torino," he wrote in 1676 that Torino was founded seven centuries before Rome by the Egyptian king (or Phoenician) Eridano seven centuries before Rome (about 3500 years ago).
    The Count Brizio, bishop of Turin in 1648 declares that shame in Turin is well known the worship of adoration of the Egyptian gods Osiris, Isis and Apis,

    The Count Tesauro in his "Historia di Torino," he wrote in 1676 that Torino was founded seven centuries before Rome by the Egyptian king (or Phoenician) Eridano seven centuries before Rome (about 3500 years ago).
    The Count Brizio, bishop of Turin in 1648 declares with shame that in Turin is well known the worship of adoration of the Egyptian gods Osiris, Isis and Apis,

    The summary of the story says that at the Spareto king of Assyria time, the son of the Egyptian Sun (Pharaoh) Eridanus sailed across the seas until the Liguria and crossed the mountains, came to the fertile Po Valley.
    At the confluence of the Po and the Dora (now Colletta park), he meets a primitive population (Taurini) and founded the city of Turin.
    He will drown in the Po fell from his chariot during a race on the banks of the river as in the legend of Phaethon.
    The river Po take the name of Eridanus in his memory.





    Synchronics lines:







    Taurini, torus, Augusta Taurinorum, Torino, Apis god, Taurus constellation, Aldebaran the eye of torus against The Orion warrior, Eridanus/Phaethon same legend, Jupiter/Zeus, Eridanus constellation like a river Eridanus/Po, the wrath of Zeus against Phaethon with thunderbolts, etc. ...
    And the Akenathon story?
    Piedmont is a very strange and misterious country ...





    But the bizarre continues with the story of Thoth, the great master that in his alchemical tables of emerald implies that it is underground waiting for a resurrection.
    Thinking about the shape of Yggdrasil, leads me to suppose the theories of the hollow earth and the Nazi Hanenerbe obsession.
    What remains of the ancient Piedmont and Turin is very questionable.
    The wild immigration  in Piedmont was planned by the elites to destroy our identity and has succeeded perfectly in a land of many facets.
    Allochtonous and allogeneic have removed almost completely our local languages that in the times kept a connection with five of the oldest languages in Europe.
    Who they were those two peoples appeared from nowhere among the Susa Valley and the valleys of the Canavese in Piedmont after the emersion of the lands? What is the connection between the Celts and the Etruscans in Piedmont? There is a legacy Lyran-Atlantean-Pleiadian-Arcturian?
    Some stories and bizarre hypothesis can open a door to the truth.
    There is much more yet to be exposed, but I think this is already sufficient to stimulate interest and curiosity about our history, heritage and identity.


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    THE THUNDERBOLT, ARCHETYPE OF POWERFULL GODS

    Messaggio Da Asti Ovest il Lun Ago 04, 2014 10:47 pm

    https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/













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    BIZARRE THEORETICAL ASSUMPTIONS

    Messaggio Da Asti Ovest il Ven Ago 01, 2014 3:47 pm

    Observe this symbol

    TheYggdrasil, the Tree of Life ancient Druidism, the inspirer of ritual of "Palo Beltane"















    What may suggest this figurine?
    For me, the first is the Gaia energy, then the baphomet philosophy or yin and yang, upper like lower, the hollow earth, the cinese ideogram of earth-garden-spirit (shen), the energy that flows inside a frontal section of a toroid and, last but not least, in consideration of bela Rosin century, the strong reserch at that time towards ancient exoteric sources. Infact, few years later, Hitler was inspired by these doctrines (Thule and Vril).
    Take a look this site and their pourpose:


    Well, now take a look at this related site.

    I extract by this:

    Vril, The Power of the Coming Race
    by Sir Edward Bulwer-Lytton [1871]

    Legendary for his turgid prose ("it was a dark and stormy night...") Bulwer-Lytton's pioneering science fiction novel "Vril" was taken very seriously by 19th Century Atlantis fans (for instance, Scott-Elliot). Vril is a mysterious energy which is used by Lytton's subterranian race (refugees from the Deluge) to power their advanced civilization; it was later treated as a reality by occultists.

    From: http://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/vril/index.htm

    Vril Energy
    The vril was the name given to the strange energy source used by the Vril-ya race in Bulwer Lytton's (circa 1871) book The Coming Race. The story is about a mining engineer you finds his way into a cave that leads to a subterranean world inhabited by an advanced race who in appearance greatly resemble the Pre-Raphaelite image of angels (wings and all that). It is a very unusual book written by a very interesting guy who is linked in with the occult world of Freemasons and the United States-New World order bunch along with the likes of Bacon and Franklin.

    One point to mention is that Tesla was some what influenced by this book and so may be the origin of his teleautomatics. In short the Coming Race is the first book that talks of Robots!

    Unfortunately Hitler also was influenced by this book, linking the Aryan race with the Vril-ya. As for the Vril, well this was apparently the power source for Nazi UFOs.

    But what is it, well it seems to be the same as Reichenbach's Odic force, Reich's Orgone and so on. Also from Lytton's description, it also seems to be the primary force, the origin of all other forces, i.e. gravity, magnetic, electric and so on. So Vril can be seen as a sort of unified field theory.

    From: http://www.keelynet.com/interact/archive/00001893.htm

    This tools is not else that vajra, the Sanscrit terms of thunderbolt or diamond, that tibetans monks use with a bell in their spiritual meditations.
    Take a look the tutorial:






    Why Rosin continued the cult of ancient druids rituals?
    Why part of freemansonry is too much close this things and support some type of spirituality?
    Take a look for any hypothesis:








    And much many more about these topics.
    Time travelers?
    For example, the strange case of Oberto Airaudi and Dovilio Brero (a local artist painter). They traveled through time towards Atlantis following the synchronic lines and channelling the local beings.  And yet, Airaudi that goes back in time to meet himself kid for deliver to his mother a chest of books for self educate themselves on the ancient alchemical teachings.
    The books self erased as he read.

    Where is the thruth among myths, legends, stories, wistleblowers, science, scifi, debunkers, history and facts?

    I'd like remember S. Holmes in his motto:
    "when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth".


    Bizarre for mass, isn't true?







    Bela Rosin was born in 1833 as Maria Rosa Chiara Teresa Aloisia Vercellana and passed away in 1885. Her father was a Napoleon soldier then passed in the royal italian corps of Granatieri di Sardegna. His name was Giovanni Battista Vercellana from Moncalvo d'Asti and his wife was Maria Teresa Griglio.

    So, why in Piedmont is too much strong the esotericism?
    Why the strong privacy and reserbe of the genuine piedmontese?
    Why the genuine piedmontese don't show his things to everybody? Why the cult of the egiptian gods by few true elders Piedmont natives?
    Why the name of Torino (Turin - Augusta Taurinorum)?
    Why torus?
    Why Gustavo Rol was the mitical Rol? Why Rol in his photo indicated always the tipycal freemason pose of fingers on brain or rebis?

    The personal history of Rol explains his lodge's rules and purpose all us.
    The rest is scattered among history, the old local stories and ancient runes.
    Obviously i think that the current freemasonry is very different by that times.
    For those who know certain hermeneutical keys, understands very well that within Freemasonry now there are conflicts of identity (for example the G.O.I. and G.O.D.).
    I suppose that Mauro Biglino (sleeping former Gran Loggia d'Italia) is an evident example but I will not touch certain topics and enlarge.
    If Rosin and local freemasons believed in the piedmont exoteric trials and learn whith local sciamanist, there were true things and substance.
    Our piedmontese language (Unesco recognized) can solve some doubt about the arcane.
    The linguist root is all, as I learned from the great native Robert Morning Sky, and the fisionomy of faces is complementary yet. The myths and the legends do it the rest of the true.
    Like usually says mr. Robert Morning Sky "I suggest you ..." to observe the old photo of native Hopi and compare with our old piedmontese native.
    Also our privacy is like the americans native.
    I did it with my grandparents and others native and i've noticed they are very similar.
    And we are also any the same english words like rock, brick, peak, and many athers very similars.
    May be we are a ancient colony of egyptian transumance mixed with influences of middle east ary-an and ancient Lyran-Atlantis-Celtics legacy (Aldebaran-Torus myths).
    This is my hypothesis and idea for enlarge the studies.
    Jacopo Durandi (1739-1817) was an eminent historical member of Science Accademy of Turin and wrote some sages about the italian people history (1766/69)
    I suggest to waiting for Mauro Biglino's book about hypothesis of Greek legends to compare them with the R.M. Sky papers..




    About former USAF - AREA 51 col. B. Faye Woodard, a bizarre man that claims his Atlantis heritage.





    What about the myths of Rama, the evidence and the story among Rama, Turin, Celtics, Druids, Taurini, Salassi, Atlantis legends and even the hollow earth?
    In this italian site the Rama's story in 5 pages, and in this web site all about the hollow earth.

    There is much more to tell about the major differences between the Piedmontese character according to the topography of the areas and migratory flows.
    We have very marked differences in character even within a radius of only 10 km.
    Often not only change the accent but also the language (piedmontese of course).
    With the immigration of the last century, Piedmont has lost its identity and new generations have left behind even our language.
    Now we are almost fully allogenics.
    Globalization was a disaster and that is why there is a desire for self-determination in northern Italy.
    But seems that is the same in all of western world.
    In Italy the question is much strong in Veneto only because they have suffered less immigration than us of western Italy.
    They have invaded the Piedmont for centuries and now are the first to lament for them.
    There have been three great evils in Piedmont over the last two centuries: the invasion of Savoy house, the insane policy plotted by zionist freemasons, the FIAT hegemony and the related massive immigration from everywhere out of control.
    Mass immigration and erased identity is the means to the ultimate goal of total enslavement to ancient archons who want full control.
    These have progressively destroyed our identity alredy sick.
    But the story about it is too much longer and controversial.
    If once Hannibal was afraid and respected Taurini, now we can only more a pissing on our shoes and shut up.


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    WHATS ABOUT "BELA ROSIN" THE "WICCA"

    Messaggio Da Asti Ovest il Ven Ago 01, 2014 2:50 am

    In upper post there is the little story about "la bela Rosin".
    Bela Rosin is pronunced in piedmontese "bela" (be-la like the be of bell and the la like the musical note).
    Mean "beautiful" also in sense of charm and beauty and Rosin mean Rose in diminutive like little Rose.
    In piedmontese "Rosin" is pronounced as "Ru" like ru of rules and zin like "zi" of Zion: "Ru-zìn" with accent on i.
    Rosin was very poplular in piedmont people.
    King Vittorio Emanuele II (Victor Emanuel II) of Savoia was nicknamed "Tojiu" To-you (Vittorio - torio - tojiu - (toyou, seems japanese ...)
    Today in Piedmont we says also, only among old natives like me, about a man with big moustaches "Tojiu che barbis!" (Toyou, what a mustaches! Like say "what a stuff!").
    Barbis (bar-bìs, like double bar), in piedmontese mean as well great stuff, becouse the elders craft chiefs usually had big mustache fashion as a hallmark of wisdom and rolling them up with their fingers when explaining their expertise.
    This is the same thing in every parts of the world.

    I resume the rows about Rosin just written in previous post.
    She was born in France, Nice, just over the west Piedmont boundary, into a magical ambience with strong Celtic presence called in Piedmontese "Masche", memory of ancient wicca (witch) like in some areas of Piedmont.
    "Masche" pronounced "Ma-ske" in western piedmontese, "Ma-skee" in Asti middle-west Piedmont.
    Mean masks in sense of ghost, spirits, beings of the other worlds.
    For example if a piedmontese perceive strange presences he says: "ai son i Maschi?" (pronunced "I-soon-e-Ma-skee?").

    Now, we are a miscellaneous from ancient original race like Taurini, Salassi, Celtics, and then also mediterranean race like Egiptians and Euroasiatic. Taurini and Salassi were the our dominant race and probably the heritage of Atlantis and others race from north eastern races. Across the centuries, by Romans, Gauls and German and many others, we have lost our pedigree.
    Augusta Taurinorun (Turin) was founded many centuries before Rome by Taurini and Salassi and the Romans assigned the term of urbs.
    Rama is the evidence of ancient Celtics, Druids, perhaps Atlantis heritage in Piedmont.

    Is important to share the recent discovery about the northern italian DNA that show our ancient origin and the passages on our foothill territory that was like a door for western and northern Europen among the Alps.





    The tradition of shamanism in Piedmont continues today.
    We call them "setmin" (pronunced set-meen) because they generally are born in seven month.
    But could mean even with british linguistic root "Seth-mean" or "Seth-man",  
    in other words, the man of Seth the god of death, of desert, the killer of Osiris, the god of chaos, Typhoon.
    These men cure the sick with chicken feathers and softly magic words. Then burns the feathers and the sick heals. Otherwise use blessed candles dissolved in olive oil or other secret materials.
    It's important to emphasize that real "setmin" not require money or other, is always the patient that offers, if he wants, any things.
    The real setmin tells always to the patient if is able to cure the disease.
    Part of Piedmont frowned upon House of Savoy. In Monferrato was contempt towards the king and the Turin army at his service (don Albino Tizzani in rare book "Storia del Monferrato casalese").
    Archaeologists have found, always in the Monferrato, traces of the passage of the Etruscans and Celts 3000 years before Christ (according  the same historical book of don Tizzani).



    From the middle of last century, the Piedmont is now almost totally allogeneic by the southern and eastern people immigration that have plot their course to the northern industries.
    Now we have lost our real identity and traditions in reason of  the doctrine of globalism.
    But this is another story.

    When the bela Rosin was young, lives in Moncalvo few kilometers by Crescentino, an area with strong presence of magic Celtic heritage.
    We don't forget that in this area there was a strong presence of Cathars, erased by the church of that time.
    A witness states that Rosin shared her interests about occult with freemasons in her residence of "La Mandria".
    Camillo Benso count of Cavour, freemason Grand Master and occultist, with his friend Costantino Nigra, Grand Master of G.O.I., druids and supporter of Celtic culture, meet often the bela Rosin in her residence.
    In these meeting Rosin discussed various philosophies inviting personalities of various kinds.

    King Vittorio Emanuele II, satisfied by the sincere affection that shared with Bela Rosin, let her do without worrying too much about her knowledge and  interests, he was busy in his long days of hunting with nobles and friends to weave amorous adventures of all kinds.

    Approached by the 'elders' of the time Celtic Families, the Bela Rosin had no troubles to grant permissions to enter freely in the north of the royal park to run their rituals that according two witnesses, she also participated on several occasions.

    And for his kindness and his interest, seems that she would be accepted in one of the Families of Lanzo and recognized in the quality of aspirant Druid.

    After the death of King Vittorio Emanuele II in January 9, 1878, the Bela Rosin no longer lived at the Mandria because lose her priviledge to access. So it happened that the Celtic Families of Valli di Lanzo no longer had the ability to enter inside the ancient sacred place to celebrate their rites and finally they had to abandon it.
    The place became field and two centuries later, the last local druids elders recall the story and now the place is the Cromlech of Dreamland.
    In the picture above is the mausoleum of the rests of the bella Rosin that was erected by her sons.


    [note about Cavour: http://www.brigantaggio.net/brigantaggio/personaggi/cavour.htm#cavo]


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    SHAN THE MOVIE: THE ANCIENT HEART OF NATURAL PEOPLE

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    The Stefano Milla's movie "SHAN" , released in 2007 and starring the LabGraal five musicians, has created a new way of culture and soon became a movie trend that has inspired events, conferences, cultural events and editorials.
    Shan is a symbolic journey of five musicians on the trail of invisible traditions, myth, music and testimonies, the rediscovery of the ancient heart of the natural peoples native of the planet. As a saga, the film unfolds on the theme of ancient European legend of the city of Rama and the secret of the Grail whose contents universally embrace the traditions of the entire planet.
    "Shan" in what was Druidic culture of shamanism, represents Nature in its mystical significance given the immateriality of existence like the "Dreamtime" of Australian Aborigines or the "Wakan Tanka" of Americans Native.


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    Re: PIEDMONT NW ITALY: THE LOST TOWN OF RAMA , THE PHAETHON LEGACY

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    Another example of the survival of Celtic culture in these valleys is the celebration of the "Rite of the Tree" practiced, according to the account of Families Celtic Lanzo, from the Celtic population of Rama in the area of ​​the Mandria Regional Park, where today is the large Cromlech Dreamland. This is the "bran", "the maypole" which is still practiced throughout Europe, including north and south Italy.

    At the time of the "Gallo-Roman" the celebration was dedicated to Bel, the Celtic god of Light, and was carried out in the spring on the eve of May Day, and between 30 April and 1 May.

    The rite of "Palo Beltane" in a medieval depiction






























    The Maypole was basically a long trunk planted on the ground, the top of which were tied colored ribbons, the ends were kept in hand by the dancers who ran around interweaving.

    In the Lanzo we have many examples of the celebration of the ancient ritual of the Maypole, even if at times it has been transformed in the celebrations of the festivals of the country with the well-known "greasy pole".

    We can cite the tree Balme in Ala di Stura, to which historians and Giovanni Pasquale Milone, in their study on the Valli di Lanzo of 1911, they wrote: "Fifty years ago in Balme usavasi raise at the chapel of the Visitation a kind of greasy pole, adorned with flowers and ribbons. "

    We can also mention the celebrations tree Bala entrance of the Valli di Lanzo, or the tree of Ceres or to Cantoira in the Val Grande. A Cantoira there is still the custom of the country to bring along a holly tree decked with colored ribbons and candy and then leave it out for a few days.

    A Giaglione, in the Val di Susa, a similar custom exists: during the celebration of the Dance of the Spadonari, in the period of Candlemas, the Bran is exposed and brought in procession throughout the country. The Bran is a pole festooned with flowers, ears of corn and bunches of grapes, interwoven with colorful ribbons and bows, which at the bottom has a big form of bread.

    Out of curiosity, even today in Britain some trees are considered sacred by the locals, such as Druidic symbols Yggdrasil, and are hanging on their branches votive gifts, greeting prayers, poems and various colored ribbons.



    The sacred tree and the secret history of "Bela Rosin"

    The clear, protected dall'impenetrabile ancient forest, continued to be the place where the druids of the tribe of Rama gathered to enjoy the celebrations of the Solstices and Equinoxes and their therapeutic practices.

    The sacred place remained hidden and protected by forest, even when, around 150 BC, the Roman army troops began to occupy the places Salassians and fighting the far north of Piedmont.

    Remained so even after 450 A.D. in spite of the persecution of so-called "Old Religion" made by the Church after the Council of Arles against Celtic cults remained alive, she had been promulgated prohibiting the worship of trees, the sources and megaliths.

    "Bela Rosin" with the King Vittorio Emanuele II




















    The practice of the cult of the sacred tree was continued in the Valleys after the edict of the Church and the great trunk which replaced the ancient tree was planted in the ground to mark the celebrations and then be hidden. He lay still colored ribbons that started from the top down to represent the rays of the Sun and the gifts of abundance bestowed by nature and the defendants were dancing around it.

    The oak forest remained virtually unchanged in its extension until the arrival of Savoy who they destined a part before a game reserve and then to horse breeding.

    Around 1850 the King of Piedmont, Victor Emmanuel II, decided to fence off the area, about three thousand acres, with a wall of almost thirty-five km. This private area, which eventually became the Mandria Regional Park, part of it was used to house the royal palaces with the apartments where he lived with his second family, his wife Rosa Vercellana, affectionately nicknamed by the people of time "Bela Rosin", and his children.

    The fenced area was used as farmland and as a personal hunting ground of King Vittorio Emanuele II For this purpose, without scruples, he imported within the fenced area deer, wild boar and other animals that were to serve as prey for his "gifts" killings.

    The two elders of the Celtic family of Lanzo told that "their old", yet a few centuries before King Vittorio Emanuele chose the site for his own ends, freely used the area north of the Herd, which had existed thousands of years before the ' ancient tree, to fulfill their druidic rituals.

    However, people pointed out that even after the area was fenced off still managed to attend the place and to continue in their traditions as the wife of the King, "Bela Rosin," was quite sympathetic to their demands and had allowed access.



    Il Mausoleo dedicato alla Bela Rosin  dai suoi figli. In stile neoclassico mostra evidenti riferimenti  esoterici.  Si ritiene che fosse stato realizzato per rappresentare sia  il Pantheon di Roma, per simboleggiare la sua ecletticità laica, sia la  Gran Madre di Torino, dove si dice sia custodito il Graal, nel  riferimento alla sua ricerca filosofica




























    Secondo il testimone, la Bela Rosin era dedita dalla sua infanzia a studi e a pratiche di natura “esoterica” e proprio questo l’aveva aiutata ad interessare e ad affascinare il Re.

    La Bela Rosin, o Rosa Vercellana, era nata a Nizza Marittima, in Francia, in un ambiente di "masche", le sacerdotesse della sopravvissuta Antica religione, e dove era stata forte la presenza della cultura celtica. Va ricordato come in zona era esistita sino agli anni ’70 una gigantesca piramide alta circa 50 metri, poi abbattuta per lasciare posto ad uno svincolo autostradale.

    La città in cui la Bela Rosin era vissuta da giovane, Moncalvo, vicino a Crescentino in Piemonte, era anch’essa una zona dove c'era una forte presenza della cosiddetta “stregoneria” erede delle antiche tradizioni celtiche. Non va dimenticato che proprio in queste zone c'era stata una importante presenza dei Catari, cancellati dalla Storia a seguito di cruente repressioni da parte della Chiesa del tempo.

    Secondo il nostro testimone la Bela Rosin condivideva i suoi interessi con vari studiosi dell’occulto e altre figure del mondo massonico dell’epoca. Interessi che venivano dibattuti con letture durante gli incontri nel suo salotto privato, attuati nella residenza della Mandria, dove si avvicendavano personaggi come il Conte Camillo Benso di Cavour, massone ed esoterista, che a sua volta era amico di Costantino Nigra, ritenuto dalle voci del tempo un druido e comunque un sostenitore della cultura celtica. Incontri in cui la Bela Rosin riuniva ogni genere di personaggi particolari con cui probabilmente venivano sviluppati discorsi di varia filosofia.

    Il re Vittorio Emanuele II, appagato dal sincero affetto che divideva con la Bela Rosin, la lasciava fare senza preoccuparsi troppo delle sue frequentazioni e dei suoi interessi, occupato nelle sue lunghe giornate di caccia con nobili e amici a tessere avventure amorose di ogni genere.

    Avvicinata dai “vecchi” delle Famiglie celtiche del tempo la Bela Rosin non ebbe quindi difficoltà a concedere il permesso di entrare liberamente nella zona nord del parco reale per eseguire i loro riti a cui, secondo i due testimoni, partecipò anche lei in più occasioni.

    E proprio per la sua benevolenza e i suoi interessi sembra che venisse accolta in una delle Famiglie di Lanzo e riconosciuta nella qualità di aspirante druidessa.

    Dopo la morte del re Vittorio Emanuele II, avvenuta il 9 gennaio 1878, la Bela Rosin non abitò più alla Mandria e non ebbe modo di rinnovare il suo permesso di accesso. Così accadde che le Famiglie celtiche delle Valli di Lanzo non ebbero più la possibilità di entrare nell’antico luogo sacro per celebrare i loro riti e dovettero definitivamente abbandonarlo.



    Il cromlech di Dreamland ospita secondo la consuetudine dell’antico celtismo incontri di varia cultura, di  musica e di esperienze di meditazione. Nella foto, un incontro di  meditazione con il supporto della “nah-sinnar”, l’antica musica dello  sciamanesimo druidico

    Il luogo rimase quindi deserto e anonimo, parte della foresta rimasta venne abbattuta
    per far posto a campi coltivati e del luogo sacro rimase memoria solamente nelle tradizioni delle Famiglie celtiche del luogo.

    Il caso volle che secoli più tardi venne l’idea, inconsapevolmente, di realizzare il Cromlech di Dreamland nella stessa zona. Solo la narrazione fortuita degli Anziani della Famiglia celtica riportò in luce l’antica memoria storica.

    Per curiosità, circa la complessa e non ancora svelata figura della Bela Rosin si può ancora aggiungere doverosamente che probabilmente proprio per la sua particolare personalità, alla sua morte, avvenuta nel 1885, i suoi figli fecero erigere un emblematico Mausoleo in Torino in cui posare le sue spoglie. Si dice avessero fatto realizzare quest’opera monumentale per una rivalsa su Casa Savoia che aveva vietato espressamente che la loro madre venisse sepolta al Pantheon di Roma, insieme a Vittorio Emanuele II, poiché non era mai stata elevata al rango di Regina.

    A osservare bene le caratteristiche dell’architettura neoclassica del Mausoleo si può notare come mostri evidenti riferimenti esoterici che potrebbero essere riferiti alla vita vissuta della Bela Rosin.

    Alcuni ricercatori sostengono che il Mausoleo fosse stato realizzato per rappresentare in dimensioni ridotte il Pantheon di Roma, sede delle statue di tutti gli dei delle terre conquistate dall’Impero romano, come simbolo della sua ecletticità laica, aperta ad una filosofia senza confini. E che ricordasse volutamente la chiesa della Gran Madre di Torino, dove si dice sia custodito il Graal, per simboleggiare lo spirito della sua conoscenza filosofica.

    Il Mausoleo in effetti, nel tempo, si è rivelato inevitabilmente come un preciso simbolo esoterico rispondente al pensiero laico della Bela Rosin, anche se le consuetudini sociali e la riservatezza dei suoi discendenti lo hanno sempre negato e contestato.

    Rimane tuttavia ancora oggi il punto di incontro dei vari gruppi di esoteristi torinesi che lo considerano un luogo magico e denso di significati simbolici e profondamente spirituali.

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    PIEDMONT NW ITALY: THE LOST TOWN OF RAMA , THE PHAETHON LEGACY

    Messaggio Da Asti Ovest il Gio Lug 31, 2014 2:30 pm

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    Tales of Dragons, Knights Templar and Cromlech - 3
    May poleIn Piedmont surviving ancient Celtic traditions of the epic. The legend of Phaethon and the circle of stones built by his aides golden metal echoing in the initiative of the Stone circle of Dreamland, built to give visibility to the natural philosophy of the Celts.

    The tradition of the "Celtic Families" report of the Valleys forgotten stories that revolve around the Park of the Herd involving the figure of "Bela Rosin", the enigmatic mistress of King Vittorio Emanuele II
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    The cromlech of Dreamland and the forgotten history

    When it was decided to carry out the Dreamland Cromlech we never imagined what would happen next and what moral and historical significance could awaken with his presence on the territory.

    Its construction is in fact gone far beyond the intention of making it an event that was to give visibility to the ancient culture of the Celts, coming to catalyze a number of situations that have opened a gash on the ancient history of the Celts of the Valli di Lanzo. We thus found to be screened in a sort of time travel in which the ancient myths of Celtism and the events of history today are welded together in a continuity unexpected, bringing to light the ancient chronicles forget, if not deliberately hidden, history.

    It all began at the time, along with Rosalba Nattero, I was writing 'Rama lives. " A work that arose from the discovery of the remains of megalithic walls in the Susa Valley that were thought to be the remains of the legendary city of Rama, in order to give visibility to the forgotten megalithic heritage of Piedmont and its relationship with the more well known, of 'Europe.

    For this reason, with the intent to read up as much as possible, we had made contact with several researchers in the world Piedmontese and European. At that time, we were in contact, for a series of fortuitous events, even with the discrete "Families Celtic," as they like to call themselves, existing on the territory of the Val di Susa and Lanzo valleys.

    The Dreamland Cromlech, designed to give visibility to the culture and myths of the Celts and to show the public their knowledge in astronomy. In ancient times, the place where it rises, were celebrated the rites of the Druids of the Valli di Lanzo, and the Celtic people of "Rama"
    The meeting with these historical singularity was fruitful as it showed up in various narrations of events that constituted a valuable testimony on the history of the Celtic peoples of the Piedmont.

    The sacred tree of the ancient Druids

    They were just two members of one of the families of Celtic Lanzo came unexpectedly on a visit to Dreamland to reveal a story that did not know quite where our Cromlech would prove to be the protagonist against his will.

    Among the many historical anecdotes, told us that especially the place where we were at that time, which is part of the Regional Park of the Herd, already was once a meeting place for "their old" where they practiced various druidic rituals.

    According to their story, here formerly stood a large oak tree that was much higher than all the other covering the whole area for thousands of years. The tree, in memory of their tradition of family, was situated in a large clearing in the dense forest of the time. It was a tree that had a life long-lived, some two thousand years, and had been planted by the Druids of the time in the ground clutching a twig taken from the hearth of the Celtic culture that lost their collocavano of the fertile land in the basin of the Black Sea.
    The tree, which grew miraculously, it was considered a symbol of life-giving properties and cosmic Yggdrasil, the Cosmic Tree of Life druids that from its roots sunk into the dark abyss of the earth stands with his trunk into the sky where unfolds the thick foliage in order to be illuminated by the Sun

    A medieval map showing areas occupied by Celtic tribes. In it, we highlight the permanent site in the Susa Valley of the Celtic people of the "Rama" in the area known as the Valli di Lanzo "Ramat". The migration from their homeland took place, according to the legends of the elders of Cantoira, through a long tunnel through the mountain "Roc Maol," the current Rocciamelone


































    Around age-old tree had hundreds of alternate generations. Here, special ceremonies were celebrated on the occasion of the Solstices and Equinoxes. On these occasions were tied at the top of the trunk of the giant tree and several long colored ribbons that were kept in hand by the defendants that danzandogli entwined around its trunk.

    The tree was also a meeting point where the druids were provided to the education of their students and welcomed the sick to practice with the therapeutic use of water from a natural spring that was near the same tree and with the ' use of crystals which were collected ritually at the slopes of the village of Balme, located in the Val d'Ala, and with zircons that were collected in Val di Viu.

    The tree, which grew miraculously, it was considered a symbol of life-giving properties and cosmic Yggdrasil, the Cosmic Tree of Life druids that from its roots sunk into the dark abyss of the earth stands with his trunk into the sky where unfolds the thick foliage in order to be illuminated by the Sun.



    The Celtic tribe of the people of the "Rama"

    The two Elders told us that even before their "old", the place where once stood the great tree was considered sacred and at the center of their spirituality as well as countless previous generations of Celtic peoples.

    The first migrations, according to our guests, had come when the ice that once covered the area of ​​the Regional Park of the Herd had withdrawn from time to give way to an immense forest. Here they had cleared several acres of land to the Valli di Lanzo to create agricultural areas needed for seeding.

    In this succession of peoples, it was finally installed last, around 1200 BC, the Celtic ethnicity "Salassians" belonging to the culture of "Hallstatt", which was originally formed to the north of the Alps to the thirteenth century BC

    These people were mainly farmers and according to legend, boasted the origin of the lineage descendant of Saturn, Roman transposition of the Celtic god Thor. A peaceful people who had integrated with the previous residents and was deployed mainly in the north of Piedmont, to Ivrea and Aosta. The language spoken was the Gallic and been an obvious track today in diverse dialects of Franco-Provençal Valli di Lanzo.

    To the people of the Salassians was added later yet another tribe, of more modest size, which was distinguished by the name of "Rama" or "Ramat" and that she had gone to occupy the area between the present towns of Fiano, Robassomero and The Case.

    It was a group that kept the reference to the myth of Phaeton, and even boasted of keeping his punctured wheel of gold. A historical entity is still vital that even today, according to the two Elders, would be the direct origin of one of the families of the Valli di Lanzo Celtic survived the war of conquest of the area by the Romans and then the bloody repression that culminated in the tragic death of the Cathars in the area.
    The historical origin of this last Celtic tribe was shown quite daring narrative by our host. It was originally from the Susa Valley, where he was for some time in its permanent site specific, and at a certain time in order to escape their enemies had to abandon his tribal land to arrive in the Lanzo where you installed the rest of the centuries following.

    His journey, which brought in unless the vestiges left by Phaethon, apparently goal of his enemies, came through a long cave that, according to ancient Druidic legends, opened to a side of the "Roc Maol," the current Rocciamelone until it reaches the side of the Valli di Lanzo.

    A story that seems to echo in the myth of African Ngog Lituba where the progenitors of mankind found refuge from their pursuers just inside a cave from which they went out to populate the Earth. Or that of the Middle Eastern cult of Mithra, the god born in a cave indicated by a comet in the sky.

    The tribe of Rama, or Ramat, arrived in the land of Salassians was found to occupy the area to the north of La Mandria Regional Park, and in fact inherited the ancient tradition of the tree and the ceremonies that were performed from time immemorial before them.



    The remains of the ancient town of Rama who would be kind, according to the Druidic tradition, following the descent from heaven of the god Phaethon. In the beginning God erected by his two aides of a large golden metal Cromlech, which has been inspired to create the stone circle Dreamland. Around his Cromlech was born the town of Rama, millennia later rebuilt by the people of the Pelasgians. You can see the serpentine cut between the stones performed to stabilize the installation of giant boulders

    However, at the time of their coming to the tree plurimillennial no longer existed, erased by time, and in its place, on the occasion of the Solstices and Equinoxes, was erected a large trunk that replaced it symbolically in ceremonies.



    The myth of Rama in the traditions of the Valli di Lanzo

    The history of the people of Rama in this area of ​​the Valleys lanzesi seems to have left traces in the local traditions that can remember the ancient tribe of the "Rama".

    The Yggdrasil, the Tree of Life ancient Druidism, the inspirer of ritual of "Palo Beltane"




















    We can quote the attribute of "Ramaset" which was given to the ancient inhabitants of the town of La Cassa. A title that appeared in the early twentieth century as a negative connotation, but that well corresponded to that derogatory term for "bon homme" given to the defeated Cathars who, prior to their bloody end, instead indicating the status of honest and upright.

    We can also mention the custom of "rite of Rama," a sort of blessing the bread that was performed by the peasants of the Valli di Lanzo. A ritual that was to pass on the bread of a sprig called for the note with the name of Rama. Name that probably binds to the possible etymology of the origin of the same name in the city of Rama seen as a center from which branched off, as branches of a sacred tree, the roads leading its representatives to the lands of Europe.

    There are also several popular legends existing in the Valli di Lanzo, supported by the tales of the Families Celtic today, which tell of the existence of long and large tunnels that connected the Valley of Susa with those of Lanzo. Galleries no longer viable because interrupted by landslides, but that were the object of interest by the ancient Romans and in recent times also the subject of research by the Nazis who were on the trail of arms depots of the partisans.
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